[Freefromwar] Critical of Trump for the Wrong Reasons & weekly meme

Arthur Blomme art at integralshift.ca
Thu Jan 30 09:59:39 PST 2025


Hi John

I agree with the substance of what you are saying. this peace deal seems 
to be giving The Zionists exactly what they wanted and I do not believe 
that the Palestinians will give up their homeland. Trump seems to be 
delusional in terms of the solutions he is offering and if he is going 
to obtain real peace he is going to have to change his expectations.  I 
do not believe that he will get a nobel prize.   He seems to really piss 
off the deep state.  But in time we will see.

Art

On 1/25/25 13:36, John Carver via Freefromwar wrote:
> I've noticed that nation leaders, state ministers, negotiators, rights 
> organizations and anti-war protesters around the world and Hamas have 
> all credited themselves with getting the ceasefire agreement done. Art 
> I think you give Trump too much credit.
>
> I do see it as significant and not just coincidence that the ceasefire 
> was agreed to right after Steven Witkoff met with Netanyahu. But does 
> that make Donald Trump a negotiator and peace maker? I doubt it. 
> Here's why:
> 1. We don't really know what transpired in that meeting. I can imagine 
> a tradeoff. Netanyahu gave Trump what he wanted - an illusion of 
> having brought peace to the Middle East. Maybe he'll get one of those 
> Nobel prizes that get handed out so freely. But what did Netanyahu get 
> in return?
> 2. In public statements Trump has said he will support Israel with 
> whatever it takes to continue the war and to "get the job done". It's 
> clear from Netanyahu's statements what the "job" consists of and it 
> doesn't include making peace.
> 3. Trump had also promised, and has already lifted sanctions on West 
> Bank settlers, and now we see IDF moving ahead with the siege there.
>
> As I write this I see Israel breaching the ceasefire terms just as 
> they have with Lebanon. While the hostage exchange is good news we 
> need to not become complacent. The crisis continues.
> John
>
> On 2025-01-24 11:35 p.m., Arthur Blomme via Freefromwar wrote:
> (excerpt)...
>> For me the greatest evil is war.  Donald Trump is the only US 
>> president,as far as I know,  that ever stated in his inaugural speech 
>> that he wanted to be remembered as a peace maker.  He has already 
>> managed to force a tentative peace deal in Palestine.  He states  
>> that the loss of so many young lives on the battle field in Ukraine 
>> is a horrible tragedy  and   he has requested a prompt meeting with  
>> Putin where he intends to diplomatically end the war.   No other 
>> president in recent history has sought a diplomatic solution to war. 
>> This is what the world needs now;   an end to the psychopathic 
>> wastefulness of war, the greatest evil of all.  How can we not wish 
>> Trump well in this endeavour.
>>
>> Trump seems to be taking steps to achieve the objectives that he 
>> promised his MAGA base. Yet he has surrounded himself with the worst 
>> of the techno oligarchs.  We have to in my opinion be wary of Trump 
>> betraying his promise to the American people.   At this point it is 
>> to early to tell if he sincerely wants to make our planet a more 
>> peaceful and prosperous place to live. Calling him names will just 
>> blind us to the reality and opportunities before us as his tenure 
>> unfolds.
>>
> ...
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