[Sundaycommunity] People Progress for November 22

Wed Nov 25 10:22:58 PST 2020

Given that my original Christian formation was in the United Church, I
don't have a big Marian thing going.  And I have never found the images of
Mary, the Virgin (etc.) shrouded in blue, much of the example of womanhood
I should emulate.  I refer to God both as male and female, and long ago
learned how to begin the Lord' Prayer with Our Mother, Our Father.  (I
learned this from Bill Clark, S.J., and important mentor in my young life.tt

So, Brian, excuse me, but if you see God as Him, perhaps it is because you
are male, not God.

*Patricia Smiley*

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On Wed, Nov 25, 2020 at 12:40 PM John MacMillan <met191970 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Worthless... No! Not how God sees you.
> Seeing Mary as the feminine and Jesus (or God)  as the masculine is
> horrible. God's essence is as much female as male. This allows Mary to be
> honored in her own right.
>
> John
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> On Wed, Nov 25, 2020 at 5:31 AM Brian Shaughnessy <bshaughn43 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> When I get around to "Her", shoot me.  I am a worthless piece of you know
>> what.
>>
>> Already I should amend that.  Christianity has a HUGE "HER", but it is
>> Mary, and She would be the first to tell you that compared to the True God,
>> She is nothing !!!
>>
>>         Brian S.
>>
>> aptYLJC,Twbd,ttM
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 24, 2020 at 10:15 PM Lee Piepgrass <leepiepgrass at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Him?
>>>
>>> On Nov 24, 2020, at 4:52 AM, Brian Shaughnessy <bshaughn43 at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>> Yes, Lee, there are many dwelling places, EH?, and we would do well to
>>> just assume that we are all giving it our very best.
>>>
>>> We have been told to leave judgement to Him Who will really know what He
>>> is doing and I feel really good about that.  :)
>>>
>>>         Brian S.
>>>
>>> aptYLJC,Twbd,ttM
>>>
>>> On Mon, Nov 23, 2020 at 8:29 PM Lee Piepgrass <leepiepgrass at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Well, my husband Don realized it. He always maintained, and I agree,
>>>> that it is much easier to push around people who feel not good enough and
>>>> somehow guilty (my attempt at language. He said it more eloquently) than
>>>> someone who is strong and confident and aware of his/ her worth. That stuff
>>>> came with the patriarchy. Don taught me not to say I am not worthy at Mass,
>>>> though I know others would feel differently, and I try to support everyone.
>>>> It certainly changes the way I feel at that time, though.  At my friend
>>>> Millie’s parish, St Frances Cabrini in St Paul, Minn., at communion the
>>>>  priest holds up the bread and says, in the time-honoured way, “This is the
>>>> Body of Christ” and the community responds, “And so are we all.” I like
>>>> that, but there are, after all, many dwelling places, eh?
>>>>
>>>> Lee
>>>>
>>>> On Nov 21, 2020, at 8:33 PM, joan pennings <j3pennings at yahoo.ca> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>> Just wondering.
>>>>
>>>> If the Kingdom of God is here and now how can Jesus say, "My Kingdom is
>>>> not of this world?"
>>>> I think that this world for some people is a living hell and the only
>>>> way to survive it is not to re act, to keep one 's attention on the state
>>>> of meditation.
>>>> I think that it serves the patriarchy very well  to tell us that we are
>>>> sinners (and not Blessed 0nes as Matthew Fox has it), wretches, etc.
>>>> I see myself as an eternal spiritual being who has chosen to be mortal
>>>> for a short time and it sure feels like hell  at times and it appears to
>>>> be  getting worse because most of us  do not know what we are doing. And
>>>> for those Jesus asked his Father for forgiveness. He never asked for any of
>>>> us to be thrown out, not even the murderer on the cross. Yes, we have to
>>>> learn from our mistakes and live the consequences and that is our own
>>>> doing. There is no force that throws us out. How many of us realize this?
>>>> Joan
>>>>
>>>> On Saturday, November 21, 2020, 10:21:02 a.m. EST, Catherine Walther <
>>>> catherine.walther at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> My take on it is that the Kindom of God is here and now. When we tend
>>>> to the poor, the hungry, the imprisoned or the sick etc. we enter into a
>>>> special joy, a new family of sorts, a love that is beyond our
>>>> understanding,  something that is not available to us when we only think of
>>>> ourselves.
>>>> Blessings, Catherine
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Nov 21, 2020 at 4:51 AM Brian Shaughnessy <bshaughn43 at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi, Tedd Dillon.  I agree with your focus, which is our Christian
>>>> focus, on serving The Common Good and especially His poor.
>>>>
>>>> Here is my contribution to it.
>>>> ________
>>>>
>>>> THE BIG ELEPHANT IN OUR ROOM
>>>>
>>>> Once again, in this Sunday's Gospel, someone, here a lot of "goats",
>>>> are going into "eternal fire", into "eternal punishment".
>>>>
>>>> And will anyone here acknowledge that?
>>>>
>>>> Oct. 4th:  wretches "put to a miserable death" when the Landlord
>>>> returns.
>>>> Oct. 11th:  the man without a wedding garment "thrown into the outer
>>>> darkness".
>>>> Nov. 8th:  the door being shut on the foolish bridesmaids with a
>>>> refusal to reopen.
>>>> Nov. 15th:  he who hid his talent out of fear thrown into the outer
>>>> darkness.
>>>>
>>>> We must embrace the Father and Jesus Christ in all Their attributes.
>>>>
>>>> Yes, Jesus is Love beyond our greatest imagining.  Yes, the same with
>>>> His Mercy.
>>>>
>>>> But we are not allowed to "cherry-pick".
>>>>
>>>> He is also Undeniable Severity in pursuit of the Perfect Justice that
>>>> He implements on our dying days.
>>>>
>>>> "Oh my Jesus, forgive us our sins, save us from the fires of Hell. Lead
>>>> all souls to Heaven, especially those in most need of Thy Mercy."
>>>>
>>>> But those who persist in Evil, n/w all the efforts He makes to call
>>>> them back to Him, far outworking the Devil, MUST be excluded from Heaven
>>>> for all eternity, or what kind of Heaven would it be?
>>>>
>>>>
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