[Sundaycommunity] Chemical Farming & The Loss of Human Health

Fri Oct 29 13:59:57 PDT 2021

WELL SAID CATHY AND ART WE KNOW YOUR THOUGHTS BY NOW, SO CEASE AND DESIST.
PEACE, DWYER

On Fri, Oct 29, 2021 at 4:43 PM Catherine Cavanagh via Sundaycommunity <
sundaycommunity at lists.integralshift.ca> wrote:

> Art
> It is not new for women to be told that our anger is hysterical or
> inappropriate. To suggest that I personally need material that is 'less
> threatening' or that I am 'hostile' and 'defensive' just goes along with
> that whole sexist theme.  You say you want discourse and to achieve common
> ground but there is no conversation or discourse possible once you throw
> Hitler in the mix, or belittle the grief of those who have lost loved ones
> to COVID, or persistently post disinformation that puts peoples' lives at
> risk. To pretend bewilderment at an angry reaction is disingenuous.  I
> stand by my anger.
>
> If you don't know what constitutes reliable data, for goodness sake don't
> post.
>
> If it makes you feel better, I have no intention of interacting with you
> on this subject again.  It's too contentious for this community in my
> opinion.  I suggested the last time that I emailed that you let it go too,
> and I hope you will.  I don't think anyone on here has any doubts where you
> stand. I do worry for anyone else on here who might be taken in and put
> their lives at risk because of what you post.  To those people I say: get
> vaccinated, wear a mask, and stay safe.  If you have any doubts, talk to
> your doctor.
>
> Cathy
>
> On Fri, Oct 29, 2021 at 3:21 PM Arthur Blomme <art at integralshift.ca>
> wrote:
>
>> Cathy
>>
>> What makes your quotes valid and mine misinformation?  You make very
>> general criticisms of  my thinking process that is akin to name calling.
>> We could have a fruitful conversation is you could specify a point I make
>> that you want to dispute.  We could than talk about the data presented
>> rather than my personal character.. I sense you have a nasty view of my
>> motivation  in  "the Hitler quote you used to demean those who disagree
>> with you".  How did I demean those who disagree with me by using this
>> quote?
>>
>> Interesting that the areas you chose France Spain UK and the US with high
>> covid death rates are also countries with High vaccination rates relative
>> to African countries with the exception of South Africa who have very low
>> death rates and low vaccination rates.  In Africa where they do not
>> consider COVID a major health threat there covid death rates are less.
>> (One of the explanations being proposed for the low death rate in Africa is
>> the high usage of Ivermectin.  Of course the dominant narrative that you
>> support would call this misinformation.)
>>
>> I present a lot of information derived from male commentators.  Perhaps
>> the perspective of a female investigative journalist who  has switched
>> sides in the covid debate may be less threatening to you. Kim Iverson
>> addresses the relative effectiveness of the pandemic response in the USA
>> which is similar to that of Canada.
>> Kim Iversen: People SICKER After Lockdowns. Was The Great Barrington
>> Declaration RIGHT? <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmsxbDzCQHc>
>>
>> I would like to come to some common ground.  Some people can actually
>> discuss different points of view without being so defensive and hostile.
>>
>> I try to be as evidence based as possible.   I am by no means perfect.  I
>> often wish I didn't publish emails with phrases like the hitler quote.  As
>> I broaden my perspective what once seems like a  good idea,  I now
>> recognize as problematic.
>>
>> Stay Free
>>
>> Art
>> On 10/28/21 6:06 p.m., Catherine Cavanagh via Sundaycommunity wrote:
>>
>> Yes, Canada had a lower number of deaths from COVID because by and large
>> Canadians followed the health advice from their doctors. This included
>> masking and getting vaccinated.  We saved a lot of people so of course
>> cancer claimed more people than COVID here.  *This actually shows that
>> the vaccine works*.   Again, you're following a pattern of looking at a
>> tiny corner of the evidence and then twisting it to give it the meaning
>> you're looking for.  Here's a more accurate perspective looking at COVID
>> from the start of 2020 until now:
>>
>> *"According to official statistics, COVID-19 was the leading cause of
>> death in France, Spain, the United Kingdom, and several U.S. states. But
>> after accounting for undercounting of COVID-19 deaths, it was the leading
>> cause of death in the United States, Iran, and Poland (all were
>> second-leading before adjusting to account for total deaths due to
>> COVID-19). COVID-19 was the leading cause of death in the Region of the
>> Americas and the third leading cause of death in the European Region."* (
>> https://www.thinkglobalhealth.org/article/just-how-do-deaths-due-covid-19-stack
>> )
>>
>> I've tried to read all your emails out of courtesy but I found your
>> recent emails increasingly disturbing in their reliance on misinformation
>> or partial information.  In particular I found the Hitler quote you used to
>> demean those who disagree with you in one of your last emails quite
>> offensive.  At this point I hope you will stop sharing the misinformation,
>> at least with me.
>>
>> Peace,
>> Cathy
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 28, 2021 at 7:14 PM Arthur Blomme via Sundaycommunity <
>> sundaycommunity at lists.integralshift.ca> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Randolph
>>>
>>> Statistically speaking more people were likely to have had my experience
>>> in 2020 than you.   According to stats Canada There were 83,300 people
>>> whose death is attributed to Cancer while covid19 took15,606 deaths.
>>> Cancer deaths by far supersede  death by Covid 19.
>>>
>>> Interested in hearing your comments on the video.
>>>
>>> Peace Art
>>> On 10/28/21 11:42 a.m., Randolph Haluza-DeLay wrote:
>>>
>>> I know several that have died of covid.
>>>
>>> I know none that have died of cancer.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Using our personal experience as “evidence” is terribly problematic.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> (I cannot comment on glycophate).
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Sit nobis pax cum natura*
>>>
>>> Randolph Haluza-DeLay
>>>
>>> Now in Toronto: Social scientist at-large, cyclist, environmental
>>> justice advocate, former academic/always a scholar
>>>
>>> https://www.linkedin.com/in/randolph-haluza-delay-525a451/
>>>
>>> https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Randolph_Haluza-Delay
>>>
>>> **Monthly “Mind & Soul” column  for Canadian Mennonite magazine. Latest
>>> at: *https://canadianmennonite.org/stories/what-enough
>>> <https://canadianmennonite.org/stories/what-enough> *
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Sundaycommunity [
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>>> <sundaycommunity-bounces at lists.integralshift.ca>] *On Behalf Of *Arthur
>>> Blomme via Sundaycommunity
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, October 28, 2021 2:21 PM
>>> *To:* Sunday Community <SundayCommunity at integralshift.ca>
>>> <SundayCommunity at integralshift.ca>
>>> *Cc:* Arthur Blomme <art at integralshift.ca> <art at integralshift.ca>
>>> *Subject:* [Sundaycommunity] Chemical Farming & The Loss of Human Health
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi All
>>>
>>> Since the beginning of this pandemic I am mourning several close friends
>>> who have died of Cancer.  I know no one who has died of covid.   Is our
>>> glycophate contaminated food supply causing these deaths?
>>>
>>> Art
>>>
>>> [image: Chemical Farming & The Loss of Human Health]
>>> <https://youtu.be/Aw16LPVnNco>
>>> Chemical Farming & The Loss of Human Health
>>> <https://youtu.be/Aw16LPVnNco>
>>>
>>> https://youtu.be/Aw16LPVnNco
>>>
>>> Zach Bush, MD is triple board-certified physician specializing in
>>> internal medicine, endocrinology and hospice care. He is the founder of
>>> Seraphic Group, an organization devoted to developing root-cause solutions
>>> for human and ecological health in the sectors of big farming, big pharma,
>>> and Western Medicine at large. And he is also the founder of Farmers
>>> Footprint https://farmersfootprint.us/
>>> <https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqbVhpVWJDMzZsckI1TmhmcWhLX2NHYUpGckRxUXxBQ3Jtc0tta2g1WHZRNTJ2WFQ0N1JEWENlM0FGaXVncUtuYXRsZ3E0cDZaLUFGRmVDcWV4dW82X2k0SVU2SlJSRHRoWG9qQVBBSEdBX3cxMENUN2Z6S2pPZktHczMzTmZWSjNIbWRrU1dmRy1mTTN1RVBpakpoZw&q=https%3A%2F%2Ffarmersfootprint.us%2F>,
>>> a non-profit coalition of farmers, educators, doctors, scientists, and
>>> business leaders aiming to expose the deleterious human and environmental
>>> impacts of chemical farming and pesticide reliance -- while simultaneously
>>> offering a path forward through regenerative agricultural practices. Dr.
>>> Zach Bush's work is critical in exposing the truth about our toxic food
>>> system or its health impact. To learn more please visit
>>> https://zachbushmd.com/
>>> <https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqbXlndDBLUHl3aklWb1RSN1NmWHNsMVhWcndLd3xBQ3Jtc0ttWVdNSFg0bGpNNG8tZm1aYVlWSVZIMGtvWUdYQUVIWDdKVElfb01JSjFDdWRIOHh2NDBDZk1wV0FGNFpBX19KZ1p5Zi1sM0hCdkY5MkwwbUhGQWtjR3BBLWVkTndlOUdpcE8xQ0NFQV9HQzhtQlVHaw&q=https%3A%2F%2Fzachbushmd.com%2F>
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