[Sundaycommunity] Fwd: [Ruah] Star opinion: criminal act against the community

Sun Sep 12 20:32:54 PDT 2021

Sorry Arthur,
You lost me at "trans-humanist gene therapy,  AKA Covid19 Vaccine."

The rest of your message is a bunch of words and jargon that don't
communicate to someone not "in" on the community of discourse to which the
jargon make sense. (That is, engineers don't understand biologist's or
sociologist's terminology.)

While the Toronto Star opinion essay might be a bit hyperbolic, we know
that vaccines work in general, and this one is no exception to the general
vaccine process. Covid-19 is a pretty serious illness. Vaccine risk is far
less then the disease risk.

And scientists are not part of some Grand conspiracy theory, IMHO.

Randy Haluza-DeLay, PhD
now in Toronto... Social scientist, cyclist, root beer lover.
(Sent from tny screen w thumbs-apologies if necessary!)

On Sun., Sep. 12, 2021, 6:51 p.m. Arthur Blomme via Sundaycommunity, <
sundaycommunity at lists.integralshift.ca> wrote:

>
> Re: Toronto Star OPINION Gathering in large groups, unvaccinated and
> unmasked in a time of pandemic, is a criminal act against the community
>
>
> Dear Community
>
> I am deeply concerned about support that this Star opinion piece might
> have  in our community.  I find it alarming how rapid our society is
> devolving into a medically segregated totalitarian state devoid of human
> rights.  The opinion piece claims that unvaccinated healthy people are the
> criminals causing our suffering from the pandemic.  This is a patently
> false assertion and makes no logical sense.  If the vaccines do not prevent
> you from getting or transmitting the disease how am I infringing on your
> rights by exercising my right not to submit to trans-humanist gene
> therapy,  AKA Covid19 Vaccine.   The vaccine passport is about social
> control and nothing else.
>
> The Star opinion piece was posted on the Sunday Community list following a
> declaration favouring the pronouncements of the medical establishment
> rather than engage in a discussion of the evidence questioning the
> legitimacy of the vaccine passport. Subsequent posts  implied that Pulitser
> prize winning journalist, Chris Hedges and myself were conspiracy theorists
> for suggesting that science is controlled and serves  wealthy and powerful
> private interests.  n this topic check out Laudato Si
>
> I believe that this discussion raises a pertinent theological issue
> because much of the vaccine passport response is based on unquestioned
> faith in the medical system together with the doctrine of fear with which
> we are being deluged with daily pronouncements of rising case counts of
> Covid 19.  It is my premise that the default de facto faith of our culture
> is currently predicated on the fear of nature and the necessity of
> technocracy to protect us from Covid 19 and future pandemics through the
> trans-human manipulation of our DNA to artificially produce a toxic spike
> protein that must be administered to everybody in our society to achieve
> salvation.
> It seems so hypocritical that this narrative is promoted by members of
> Ruah, who support the woman's right to make decisions regarding their body
> and the life that springs from it.  Now, do their members want to take away
> the right of individuals to give informed consent over medical procedures
> applied to their person?  The Nuremberg Code, the UN Declaration of Human
> Rights and the UNESCO Universal Declaration on Bioethics and Human Rights
> are agreements that give citizens the right to choose to consent to any
> biological intervention *after being fully informed about the intention,
> risks and benefits *of the procedure, and being *free from coercion in
> any form to consent*.  Please read The Missing Pages of Our COVID-19
> Vaccine Informed Consent Document
> <https://druthers.net/the-missing-pages-of-our-covid-19-vaccine-informed-consent-document/>
>
> Meanwhile I lament and mourn that my children have been forced to choose
> between their careers and being administered this untested trans-humanist
> biotechnology.  Children under the age of 18 have statistically a zero
> chance of serious consequences to the disease yet we are blindly including
> them in this massive social biological experiment.  I am in deep sorrow
> that I cannot protect my grandchildren.  These are the real crimes against
> humanity.
>
> Prayerfully
>
> Arthur Blomme
>
>
> On 9/10/21 11:26 a.m., John Scandiffio via Sundaycommunity wrote:
>
> Thank you Sheila and Bob for your response to the pandemic Covid 19
> issue.
>
> One way of looking at the issue may be how public health in Ottawa dealt
> with a deadly virus.
>
> When the issue was aids it was not considered as a health issue but rather
> as a social issue.
>
> Ottawa has dealt with Covid 19 as a health issue.
>
> If the war analogy were to be used and their was a pandemic measures act
> like the War Measures Act then Ottawa could suspend all laws.
>
> We all know about the War Measures Act during Quebec separation issue
> during Pierre Trudeau’s reign.
>
> Query, how long will the country suffer the financial strain , not the
> lives lost strain, on the cost of the health care system before the issue
> becomes political and a pandemic measures act is passed ?
>
> John Scandiffio.
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Sep 10, 2021, at 6:03 AM, Sheila Barrrett via Sundaycommunity <
> sundaycommunity at lists.integralshift.ca> wrote:
>
> Thank you for this Catherine. In England fewer people are wearing masks
> now and the plan to have Covid passports for people going to nightclubs for
> example is still being debated and may not be put into place.
> Love Sheila and Bob
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 10 Sep 2021, at 01:51, Mary Brown via Sundaycommunity <
> sundaycommunity at lists.integralshift.ca> wrote:
>
> 
> Thank you.
>
> Mary
> mbrown7069 at gmail.com
>
>
>
> On Thu, 9 Sept 2021 at 18:45, Catherine Walther via Sundaycommunity <
> sundaycommunity at lists.integralshift.ca> wrote:
>
>> This is very interesting. Private rights and freedoms are great as long
>> as they don’t infringe on another’s rights.
>> Catherine
>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>> From
>> Date: Thu, Sep 9, 2021 at 11:05 AM
>> Subject: [Ruah] Please share this widely
>> To:
>>
>>
>>
>> OPINION
>> Gathering in large groups, unvaccinated and unmasked in a time of
>> pandemic, is a criminal act against the community
>> By Reid Rusonik
>> Reid Rusonik is a Toronto criminal defence lawyer.
>> Contributor
>> Toronto Star
>> Wed., Sept. 8, 2021
>>
>> Imagine that Canada has been invaded by a foreign army, which over the
>> last 18 months has rounded-up and killed more than 27,000 of us, wounded
>> tens of thousands more and forced us to take shelter from its attacks, thus
>> crippling our economy.
>>
>> Now imagine it threatened to kill thousands more of us because not enough
>> of us are resisting its renewed and possibly most deadly assault yet.
>>
>> How would our governments respond? How would we expect them to respond to
>> not having enough of us volunteering to fight the invader? We would expect
>> there to be a draft? Of course we would.
>>
>>
>>
>> A military draft and military service violates a host of our rights
>> enshrined in the Charter of Rights and Freedoms, but every violation would
>> either standup to constitutional challenge in the courts or we would expect
>> the federal government to rely upon the “notwithstanding clause” or
>> “override power” in the Charter to uphold its draft and military service
>> legislation.
>>
>> In times of invasion, the needs of the community as a whole come before
>> the desires and imagined entitlements of the individual or there will not
>> be a community for those individual rights to thrive in again.
>>
>> Even a brief study of human history reveals plague invasions are a
>> certain part of human existence. We were due for a deadly one. We are
>> apparently, as likely as not, due for another, even deadlier one soon. It
>> is frightening and depressing, yes, but it is part of the reality of being
>> human.
>>
>> It is, however, also part of the reality of being human that we do not
>> have to helplessly succumb to any disease. We can fight them all. We have
>> survived terrible ones by taking learned, appropriate precautions. We have
>> altogether conquered many with vaccinations and actual cures. We will
>> almost certainly conquer more.
>>
>>
>> The Charter does not stand in the way of us organizing the community to
>> accomplish this and prevent individuals from sabotaging the effort any more
>> than it would protect individuals who refuse to be drafted into military
>> service to fight an invading army.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> The Charter is not cheapened or endangered by protecting the very lives
>> of the members of the community from either immediate death or injury from
>> an invader of any kind or from the slow death and deprivation caused by a
>> strangled economy.
>>
>>
>> Since the vaccinations became widely available, the people refusing to
>> take them while complaining about the effect of lockdowns to the economy
>> have been the very cause of those lockdowns or other lesser restrictions on
>> normal economic activity.
>>
>> The demonstrators this past week at the doors of hospitals, which impeded
>> ambulances, terrorized patients and psychologically devastated the truest
>> heroes in the fight against the pandemic invader have, at long last, I
>> hope, finally gone too far.
>>
>> This was the equivalent of storming our own military installations while
>> we are in a war for survival. Such acts are criminal acts against the
>> community and should be defined and legislated as such — and not merely as
>> quasi-criminal ticketable provincial offences.
>>
>> Gathering in large groups, unvaccinated and unmasked in a time of
>> pandemic, is a criminal act against the community and should be defined as
>> such. Let people charged with such offences try to argue in a court of law
>> they are unconstitutional because their individual rights that are
>> infringed are greater than those of the community.
>>
>> I am a defence lawyer. Some will question why a defence lawyer would
>> argue for such limits on individual rights, imagining being a defence
>> lawyer to be some kind of law-hating anarchist. I suspect very few defence
>> lawyers hate laws.
>>
>> What we hate are unfair laws, laws without rational and scientific
>> justification, and the unequal and prejudicial enforcement of laws that
>> make a mockery of individual rights and, in so doing, endanger the whole
>> community.
>>
>> I believe there would be nothing contrary for most of us in the
>> criminalization of unmasked, unvaccinated groups terrorizing and
>> interfering with the operation of hospitals or gathering as such anywhere,
>> even if simply for being part of such groups.
>>
>> We who fight for unpopular causes everyday in court do not understand the
>> political cowardice that allows for a small minority of the population to
>> thwart community efforts to fight and survive this pandemic and revive the
>> economy.
>>
>> Reid Rusonik is a Toronto criminal defence lawyer.
>>
>> Jean Ann
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