[Sundaycommunity] shut down NATO--Rage Against The War Machine rally in D.C. then Europe and Russia Abandoning Last Remaining Nuclear Arms Treaty?!

Sun Feb 26 11:39:16 PST 2023

Totally agree, Roberto...
This is all insane. Humanity is self destroying itself. unbelievable!!!

On Sun, Feb 26, 2023 at 9:21 AM Roberto J. via Sundaycommunity <
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> You can be sure Dwyer, that when and where is war, there was, is and will
> be “propaganda” since propaganda is the only way to sustain and keep up the
> insanity of war. We all have to be careful in filtering the emotional
> pictures, videos, speeches and all media to find whatever little truth they
> may have. Note that the forces to be have to convince us to, at a minimum,
> to keep us paying for insanity of killing our/their youth. I heard some one
> saying that there is no reason at all to have any war in this XXI century,
> and I can only agree after we have so many wars in the previous century
> that did not fixed anything to anyone but make richer a few.
> Roberto
>
> On Sat, Feb 25, 2023 at 22:28 Dwyer Sullivan via Sundaycommunity <
> sundaycommunity at lists.integralshift.ca> wrote:
>
>> Thank you Greg for your thorough and thoughtful response. The western
>> media has sided with the approach NATO promotes and so a differing version
>> gives us all a chance to realize we may not be getting the total picture.
>> peace, Dwyer
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Feb 25, 2023, at 8:17 PM, Greg Gillis via Sundaycommunity <
>> sundaycommunity at lists.integralshift.ca> wrote:
>>
>> Thank you Art, for sending this out Ray MacGovern, former CIA analyst was
>> interviewed by Robert Scheer and he agrees with you that we have never been
>> closer to nuclear war and World War III. The West as Henry Kissinger,
>> Professor John Measheimer, former US Ambassador to Moscow Jack Matlock have
>> all warned of the grave danger we are in because of NATO's expansion
>> eastward from 12 western nations in the 1990s to now 30 nations former east
>> bloc countries. Regrettably, the west chose hostility and aggression toward
>> Russia after the fall of the Soviet Union instead of cooperation and
>> friendship which was the vision of Gorbachev, Yeltsin, and Reagan. This
>> aggression caused Yeltsin to appoint Putin as his successor and anyone who
>> has read the history knows the complexity and truth of this situation.
>>
>> None of the current batch of western leaders seems to recall the Cuban
>> Missile Crisis! The fact that Kennedy and Kruschev who both fought in WWII
>> knew the reality of war recognized the importance of talking, diplomacy,
>> and honest negotiation thus averting the crisis. Though both had to be
>> nudged into talking to one another by Pope John XXII. Something none of the
>> western leaders have done with Putin. Merkel and Hollande of France
>> admitted lying to Putin and using Minsk I and II as cover for building up
>> their forces in Ukraine. They were preparing for this war for the last 10
>> years and refused to bargain in good faith to avert this disaster. Thank
>> you for breaking the bubble of western propaganda!
>>
>> The destruction of Nord Stream I and II by the US as cited by Seymour
>> Hersh was an act of war against Germany, a NATO member. This was not just a
>> war crime but an environmental crime as it was the largest man-made release
>> of methane in history, the worst greenhouse gas. No accident the mainstream
>> media which acts as a megaphone for the war machine will not give this more
>> coverage. Good to see in Germany today 10,000 people rallied against more
>> weapons for Ukraine and NATO's escalation. Hopefully, both sides will opt
>> for diplomacy before it is too late.
>>
>> Peace to All
>>
>>
>> Greg
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Feb 25, 2023 at 9:17 PM Bill Wright via Sundaycommunity <
>> sundaycommunity at lists.integralshift.ca> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Maybe you didn't see this, Art:
>>>
>>> Trudeau shuts down heckler during rally for Ukraine on anniversary of
>>> the war
>>> - Prime Minister Justin Trudeau was met with thunderous applause as he
>>> shot back at a heckler during a rally and vigil marking the one-year
>>> anniversary of Russia’s invasion of Ukraine.
>>> -
>>> https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/article-trudeau-heckler-ukraine-rally/
>>>
>>> And by attacking our allies standing with Ukraine, you sound like a
>>> Russian sympathizer, Art.  You have forgotten that Russia attacked Ukraine
>>> by sending 200,000 troops into Ukraine and killing thousands of innocent
>>> civilians.  And continues to kill thousands of Ukrainians.  Ukraine is
>>> defending itself and has every right to ask for help from anyone.
>>>
>>> Maybe you would prefer to see Ukraine destroyed, cease to exist as a
>>> country, all its leaders killed, and then you would also prefer to see the
>>> Baltic countries cease to exist too?  All of these countries are making
>>> their own decisions and I am happy to support them in their decisions.
>>>  And I am glad to have like-minded countries also supporting them.
>>>
>>> I think you are incorrect, Art, to be attacking NATO.
>>>
>>> Bill.
>>>
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>>>
>>> On Sat, Feb 25, 2023 at 12:54 PM Arthur Blomme via Sundaycommunity <
>>> sundaycommunity at lists.integralshift.ca> wrote:
>>>
>>>> "NATO is going to get us all killed" - protests aim to shut down NATO
>>>> for good | Redacted News <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vgc35e1esk>
>>>>
>>>> Should NATO be banned? The organization runs under the guise that it is
>>>> a defensive organization but anyone with a brain knows it’s anything but
>>>> defensive. Nick Brana is one of the organizers of the Rage Against The War
>>>> Machine rally in D.C. and he’s got a new mission: to bring an end to NATO.
>>>>
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vgc35e1esk
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Aron Mate nails it on history of nuclear arms treaty abandonment.  Following
>>>> Joe Biden’s visit to Ukraine with his attendant hawklike rhetoric, Russian
>>>> President Vladimir Putin has responded by announcing that his country will
>>>> suspend participation in the New START Treaty that limits warhead
>>>> production and allows for the US and Russia to inspect each other’s nuclear
>>>> sites. While inspections were already on hiatus from COVID, this move
>>>> merely exacerbates existing tensions and brings us ever closer to World War
>>>> III.
>>>> Russia Abandoning Last Remaining Nuclear Arms Treaty?!
>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swclKGomy-M>
>>>>
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swclKGomy-M
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