[Sundaycommunity] Covid concerns

Sat Sep 21 16:02:37 PDT 2024

*Art, your response to Dean was unnecessarily churlish.  I am not going to
try to make arguments about traditional medicine because that is not my
field and I have nothing to add to the research that goo and
well-intentioned people have already done.  And, at a certain point in time
I did get tired of certain people telling me that my son had been assessed
as being on the autistic spectrum because I had indeed ensured he had all
the normal vaccinations as a baby.  I believe Bill was sharing his
particular professional expertise in sharing this article on Covid vaccines
and has allowed us to make up our own minds.  That's medicine these days.
But then, given an almost life-long serious illness (Type 1 diabetes) I
have had to rely on traditional medicine just to stay alive.  This doesn't
mean I haven't had my disagreements with certain doctors who refused to
accept that I manage my own sugars and am frankly the best one to decide
how much to give myself most of the time.  Then I rely on the expert advice
of my endocrinologist.  I have found since being referred to him that his
advice is usually sound.*
*Please be more respectful of other members of the community, Art and our
ability to decide for ourselves.*
*Peace, Pat*

*Patricia Smiley*

*email:  smileypatricia76 at gmail.com <smileypatricia76 at gmail.com>*

*mobile:  647-517-1599*

On Sat, Sep 21, 2024 at 4:28 PM Arthur Blomme via Sundaycommunity <
sundaycommunity at lists.integralshift.ca> wrote:

> One wonders if the folks that disseminate debated information like this are they themselves willing to challenge their own personal perceptions through dialogue. Or are they more like my religion teacher in high school, a Basilian priest, who had a sign on his desk that stated: “Be reasonable… See it my way!”
>
> Peace and blessings…
>
> Dean.
>
> Dean
>
> By doing your own research you mean looking on Google to find an attack
> the messenger article from the people who have been lying to you all along.
> It seems you can't read an argument and come to your own conclusions.  I am
> wondering; is this your way of saying “Be reasonable… See it my way!”.
> How can you have dialogue with me when you can only refer to me in the
> third person.
>
>
> Art
> On 9/21/24 12:35 p.m., Dean Riley wrote:
>
> Greetings.
>
> I did a bit of research… Dr. John Campbell is an RN and has a PhD in
> nursing. He is a retired professor of nursing in the UK. A casual Google
> search reveals many challenges to his theories and I have read in many
> reputable online sources (New England Journal of Medicine, John Hopkins
> Medical School, CDC, UN…) that generally his claims cannot be trusted. Many
> of his theories have been fact-checked and debunked. Below is a Wikipedia
> link to information about this man. If any anyone has doubts… I would
> encourage you to do your own research.
>
> Peace…
>
> Dean.
>
> John Campbell (YouTuber)
> <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Campbell_(YouTuber)>
> wikipedia.org <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Campbell_(YouTuber)>
> [image: wikipedia.png]
> <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Campbell_(YouTuber)>
> <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Campbell_(YouTuber)>
>
>
> On Sep 21, 2024, at 2:25 PM, Arthur Blomme via Sundaycommunity
> <sundaycommunity at lists.integralshift.ca>
> <sundaycommunity at lists.integralshift.ca> wrote:
>
> 
>
> Roberto and Catherine
>
> Halting vaccines and banning vaccines are synonymous.
>
> There are three years of reliable information published in major medical
> journals demonstrating harms from mRNA gene therapy. If there is to be
> dialogue that gets to the truth we really have to deal with the specifics
> of the argument. including statistical reliability and research design.
> That is why chose Dr. Cambell to explain why Florida Vaccines are halted.
> He teaches research design and statistics to nurses in UK.
>
> Many jurisdictions around the world are halting the use of the
> experimental Covid vaccine Since Pfiser was forced to release its original
> trial data.   They found
>
> The vaccine was launched in mid-December 2020. By the end of February 2021,
>  “*Pfizer had already received more than 1,200 reports of deaths
> allegedly caused by the vaccine* and *tens of thousands of reported
> adverse events”*
> <https://www.globalresearch.ca/video-pfizers-secret-report-on-the-covid-vaccine-beyond-manslaughter-the-evidence-is-overwhelming-the-vaccine-should-be-immediately-withdrawn-worldwide/5780561>
> .
>
> follow up on the data. Lets dialogue with specifics instead of
> generalities.
>
> If you can only deal in generalized denials based on your pre-established
> beliefs dialogue is kind of useless.
>
> Art
> On 9/19/24 6:10 a.m., Roberto J. via Sundaycommunity wrote:
>
>
> https://www.floridahealth.gov/newsroom/2024/01/20240103-halt-use-covid19-mrna-vaccines.pr.html
>  No banned in Florida. Stop stretching trues that become lies.
> Roberto
>
> On Thu, Sep 19, 2024 at 04:10 Arthur Blomme via Sundaycommunity <
> sundaycommunity at lists.integralshift.ca> wrote:
>
>> Bill
>>
>> your fact check has nothing to do with the article.  The article quotes
>> two Japanese health officials who have concerns about the vaccine.  It then
>> goes on to discuss the results of the pfizer papers garnered on a freedom
>> of information request. It does not make the claim that the Japanese
>> government bans vaccines.
>>
>> However the Florida Health department has banned the mRNA vaccine.
>> British Doctor Campbell who teaches nurses how to read studies explains
>> their rationale for the ban.  Rather than polar respond with misleading
>> fact checks lets discuss the veracity of the evidence that informed the
>> state of Florida to ban vaccines.  Lets focus on one point of your choice.
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFWWuB7qi74&pp=ygUIY2FtcGJlbGw%3D
>> Big pharma doesn't care about you. They are only in it for the money and
>> what a cash cow forced vaccinations are.
>>
>> Art
>>
>> On 9/16/24 11:44 a.m., Helena Burnstein wrote:
>>
>> Thanks so much, Bill.
>> This needed to be shared.
>> With appreciation,
>> Helena
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Sep 16, 2024, at 13:13, William Watson via Sundaycommunity
>> <sundaycommunity at lists.integralshift.ca>
>> <sundaycommunity at lists.integralshift.ca> wrote:
>>
>> 
>> *Art*
>>
>> *FYI-*
>>
>> *Bill*
>>
>> * Fact Check: Japan is not banning COVID vaccines, contrary to online
>> claims By Reuters Fact Check March 29, 20243:45 PM EDTUpdated 5 months ago
>> [image: Reuters Fact Check logo] Japan’s health ministry has said that
>> COVID-19 vaccinations will no longer be free of charge starting in April,
>> but has not announced a ban on the vaccines, as suggested in social media
>> posts. Many of the posts, opens new tab
>> <https://archive.org/details/20240329_20240329_1208>, which have been
>> viewed more than 2.5 million times on X and been widely shared on Facebook,
>> link to an article on prepareforchange.net <http://prepareforchange.net>, a
>> conspiratorial website. The article claims, without evidence, that the move
>> came after “an official government study tied the injections to the
>> nation’s soaring sudden deaths.” *
>>
>> *https://www.reuters.com/fact-check/japan-is-not-banning-covid-vaccines-contrary-online-claims-2024-03-29/
>> <https://www.reuters.com/fact-check/japan-is-not-banning-covid-vaccines-contrary-online-claims-2024-03-29/>*
>>
>>
>> *Also*
>>
>> *No evidence of increased risk form the UK study May/24*
>>
>> *On behalf of the Blood Cancer UK Healthcare Professionals Advisory Panel
>> (**HPAP*
>> <https://bloodcancer.org.uk/healthcare-professionals/healthcare-professional-network/healthcare-professional-advisory-panel/>*),
>> a panel made up of specialists from across the UK working in
>> haemato-oncology and related professionals.*
>>
>> "We are aware that claims have been made about a link between COVID-19
>> vaccines and cancer. There are no controlled, large-scale studies (studies
>> with the most robust scientific evidence) that demonstrate an increased
>> cancer risk following COVID-19 vaccination.
>>
>>
>>
>> https://bloodcancer.org.uk/news/whats-the-latest-evidence-regarding-covid-19-vaccines-and-blood-cancer/
>>
>> On Sep 15, 2024, at 5:12 PM, Arthur Blomme via Sundaycommunity
>> <sundaycommunity at lists.integralshift.ca>
>> <sundaycommunity at lists.integralshift.ca> wrote:
>>
>> My dear friends
>>
>> Our media seems willfully blind to the existential threats faced by our
>> global community.  Those who benefit most from war and the forced
>> vaccination program are in control of the media and present a false
>> narrative of the social reality for which we should be concerned.  I trust
>> that these articles presented in Global Research are based on documented
>> fact.  If you have concerns with the veracity of the evidence presented
>> here please let me know. We are all limited by our personal perceptions and
>> we can only overcome this limitation through dialogue.
>>
>> Art
>>
>>
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