[Sundaycommunity] Fwd: Communion at Zoom masses
Sheila Barrrett
sheilaannebarrett at gmail.com
Thu Nov 27 08:29:52 PST 2025
Spiritual Communion
Dear Sunday Community,
In situations where one is not able to go to a Parish Mass and receive Communion, there is a Catholic tradition of sincerely reciting a prayer of spiritual Communion. Such a prayer expresses a desire to receive Jesus spiritually into one’s life. To find prayers of spiritual Communion, the internet is a useful resource. Here is one that we found, which could be thoughtfully adapted if you wished.
My Jesus, I believe that you are present in the most Holy Sacrament. I love you above all things and I desire to receive you in my life.
Since I can not at this moment receive you sacrament ally,I ask you to come to me spiritually and unite myself wholly to you. Never permit me to be separated from you.
Amen.
During Covid when all our local churches were closed, we would follow a Mass from our Parish on line and make a prayer of Spiritual Communion at the time in the Mass when Communion would usually be distributed.
We hope this makes a useful contribution to our Sunday Community discussion on this matter.
Sheila and Rob.
Sent from my iPhone
> On 27 Nov 2025, at 02:35, Martha Crean via Sundaycommunity <sundaycommunity at lists.integralshift.ca> wrote:
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>> On Wed, Nov 26, 2025 at 8:36 PM Roberto J. via Sundaycommunity <sundaycommunity at lists.integralshift.ca> wrote:
>> Amen, AMÉN 🙌
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>>> On Tue, Nov 25, 2025, 7:13 p.m. Arthur Blomme via Sundaycommunity <sundaycommunity at lists.integralshift.ca> wrote:
>>> Hi Ron
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>>> A senior clergyman in the United Church insists that I am a protestant because I protest rather than obey the dictates of the Roman Hierarchy. Yet I remain faithful in spirit and practice to my RC tradition despite often being sidelined. So i continue to protest.
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>>> Ron, I appreciate both yours and Pope Francis's admission that we are in a new digital age and that we are being called to be digital missionaries in this new frontier. In this regard I for a long time have cherished a notion inspired by Teilhard de Chardin. When Teilhard explained evolution as proceeding from the biosphere to the noosphere (The sphere of thought) to the omega point (being the communion of all) I felt he predicted the arrival of the internet and the advances in communication technology it provides. The Internet completes the sphere of thought, allowing us to communicate with others around the planet. As we exchange ideas and experience we become one in the truth.(" I am the way, the truth and the life' Jn.14 :16). I believe that the frontier of the digital age is about communication, leading us to Oneness. Eucharist is the sacrament that celebrates our Oneness. So our mission in the digital frontier is to advance our Oneness using technologies like ZOOM.
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>>> And when you, Ron, write, "Thanks, Paul, for outlining the theological reasoning and the practical implications concerning the question." I question the frame you are suggesting. It would have been better to have said the Paul is providing the pre-reformation inspired cannon law and its practical implications. No rational explanation for these rules has been given. Hence there is no Theological reasoning.
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>>> When I studied Catholic sacramental theology, I found compelling, the theological argument that although the ideal complete sacrament of the Eucharist required a priest, the Eucharistic prayer, a physical congregation(a priest celebrating a Eucharist by himself is not a valid Eucharist) and the species of bread and wine. Given that all these elements cannot always be present, is it not better to celebrate an incomplete Eucharist than no Eucharist at all. Invalid seems like such a brutal word.
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>>> It makes no sense to me. If I gather two or more people together and read from Mathew 22, Mark 14 or luke22, (the principle part of the Eucharistic prayer) I am OK, but if I do the same as part of a para liturgy or a liturgy I will be condemned by the Roman Hierarchy.
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>>> I worry about the future of my religious tradition in Canada. Our numbers continue to dwindle in this digital age. There are every year fewer and fewer priests. Under the existing rules, I fear that there will no longer be space to celebrate our oneness.
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>>> Getting back to the frame of this conversation. It seems to be about obedience as the primary virtue of our faith. We are not expected to think for ourselves but only to follow the rules. One time Priest Ivan Ilych, writing in the seventies, warned us. He said the new priesthood (of the dominant technocratic religion) of our time is the medical profession. As we once obeyed our priests to uphold the dogma of the Church, we now obey our doctors to uphold the dogma of science.
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>>> Irrespective of the structure we chose for ourselves, I believe that our experiment with a virtual Eucharistic community is a very valuable project and fills a need in many of us. Hopefully we will grow in numbers and be able to sustain our organization into the future.
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>>> Peace and Joy
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>>> Art
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>>> On 11/24/25 9:41 a.m., William Watson via Sundaycommunity wrote:
>>>> Responses from Paul and Ron...
>>>> -As expected, looks like we will stay with our current practice-we don’t want to put our priests in a difficult position.
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>>>> Also, note Paul’s comments about inclusions for Liturgy of the Word.
>>>> Bill
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>>>>> From: Ron MacDonell <ron.macdonell.sfm at gmail.com>
>>>>> Subject: Re: Communion at Zoom masses
>>>>> Date: November 24, 2025 at 11:07:15 AM EST
>>>>> To: Paul <ckedobw at gmail.com>
>>>>> Cc: William Watson <bill.watson at utoronto.ca>, "Lohale, Fr. Prakash" <plohale at archtoronto.org>
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>>>>> Thanks, Paul, for outlining the theological reasoning and the practical implications concerning the question.
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>>>>> One thought that comes to mind is Pope Francis' call to become "digital missionaries" in our increasingly digital world. How this would be worked out is a new frontier for Church...how to listen to the Spirit....how to grapple with electronic communication in the religious world and how to appoach the question of AI and its role in humanity. Many questions for us and for future generations!
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>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Ron
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>>>>> On Mon, Nov 24, 2025, 21:04 Paul M <ckedobw at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Sure, you can pass the note onto the community
>>>>>> Paul
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>>>>>> Sent from Gmail Mobile
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>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 24, 2025 at 10:24 AM William Watson <bill.watson at utoronto.ca> wrote:
>>>>>>> Thanks for the clarification, Paul. We thought the same but I wasn’t sure if the Archdiocese/Rome had changed the policy since Covid.
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>>>>>>> We certainly don’t want to put you in a difficult position. I suspect there will be more discussion at Mass on Sunday.
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>>>>>>> Would you mind if I sent your note around to he community?
>>>>>>> Bill
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>>>>>>> Sent from my I-Phone
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>>>>>>> William J. Watson, MD,
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>>>>>>>> On Nov 24, 2025, at 10:07 AM, Paul M <ckedobw at gmail.com> wrote:
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>>>>>>>> Hi Bill,
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>>>>>>>> I would not be comfortable with that idea if a priest is the celebrant as it is not a valid communion and furthermore if the Archdiocese found out about this practice, it would put me (and the Sunday Community) in a very difficult position.
>>>>>>>> Also, I understand that there are some in the community who, when there is no priest available, wish to include in the liturgy the Offertory and the Eucharistic Prayer. This is also invalid. When there is no priest available, the community is supposed to have a Liturgy of the Word, which only includes:
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>>>>>>>> Opening Prayers
>>>>>>>> Penitential Rite
>>>>>>>> Liturgy of the Word and reflection on the readings
>>>>>>>> Creed
>>>>>>>> Prayers of the Faithful
>>>>>>>> The Lord’s Prayer
>>>>>>>> Sign of Peace
>>>>>>>> Closing Prayer.
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>>>>>>>> There can be no Offertory or Eucharistic Prayer as that is reserved for Mass only and is the purview of the ordained priest only as opposed to the “priesthood of the faithful.”
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>>>>>>>> I hope this answers your question.
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>>>>>>>> All the best,
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>>>>>>>> Paul
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>>>>>>>> On Sun, Nov 23, 2025 at 12:58 PM William Watson <bill.watson at utoronto.ca> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Dear Paul, Ron and Prakash,
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>>>>>>>>> We had a brief discussion today at our zoom mass about the possibility of having communion at our weekly mass. We have discussed this issue before but didn’t come to any decision.
>>>>>>>>> One of my Anglican friends who is a former minister said they have been having Eucharist during their zoom masses for some time. Congregants would have a small piece of bread while the priest reads the Eucharistic prayer at the time of the consecration.
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>>>>>>>>> There seems to be a lot of interest and concern in our group and we would like your input and feedback on the idea. We may have a further discussion with group after mass next week.
>>>>>>>>> If it’s not acceptable to you all, then we will can the idea.
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>>>>>>>>> Looking forward to hearing from you.
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>>>>>>>>> Bill
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