<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div><span></span></div><div><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><div></div><div>Whose truth would send you free? </div><div>Step carefully since believing is one thing, taking action another and all of us do it mostly with a inside felling that can always be wrong. Let me put it simpler, we really not even know the truth behind previous WW, 70 years later for one and more than 100 for the other, and you "believe" you know the issues of the Ukrainian war that is no even 3 months olds. Good for you. </div><div>And I most agree with you, that not all the facts are published and we have been played in order to not complain about the effects we all are passing because of this War.</div><div>But then, main stream media has to fulfill a minimum of standards that many others cannot and will ignore, furthermore it would be utterly impossible that all of them of so many countries and languages mostly agree in what is happening when they have witnesses in different parts of the war in <span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Ukraine </span>and surroundings. You do not have to believed any of them. However, they are good references at most since there are no other means that have a minimum of standards. Denying the value of references would leave you with publications based on someone's opinion and "their" interpretation of history. Very dangerous prospect, if you ask me.</div><div><br></div><div>Let me quote you again what I wrote you yesterday to close:</div><div><br></div><div><div dir="auto"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Most definitely, one should not trust everything one reads, but most of all never put faith in it.</span></div><div dir="auto"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Also, it is clear to me, that whoever writes for others, it is giving it point of view on a given happening, in a very specific time, and with the information or facts available to the writer at the time. Most of them are not even witnesses of what they are writing, and they have to trust other for the accounts they are relating. In addition, there are prejudices that we all have, some that are evident to the writer and others that are not. Furthermore, all writers have to conform to standards of the medium the write and to the audiences the are writing to.</span></div><div dir="auto"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">And if you are not aware of all this variables and others, (like political and economical influences and needs, to mention just to gigantic distortions) I did not mention, you better not read anything, because your opinion, your knowledge and your being would live in a dream or nightmare of others.</span></div><div dir="auto"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">I can see you are in your own black hole of “information”, “facts that darken reality” but no one has the truth of just now less of other places and times. </span></div><div dir="auto"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Do not blame the messenger or the means, just be aware of the weakness of our own communication and try NOT to convince others that what you are reading is better of what others are reading. Both have the same probability of being wrong.</span></div><div dir="auto"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Huugs, </span></div><div dir="auto"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Roberto</span></div></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br>On May 14, 2022, at 15:05, Arthur Blomme via Sundaycommunity d for <<a href="mailto:sundaycommunity@lists.integralshift.ca">sundaycommunity@lists.integralshift.ca</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>
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<p>The first casualty of war is the truth.</p>
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<p>The thing about war is that you have to have the consent of
the population to engage in war. According to Noam Chomski the
role of the media is to manufacture consent for war. When you
just repeat back the narrative of the oligarchy controlled media
who want regime change in Russia you are providing consent for
the war. When Canadians virtue signal their concern for
Ukrainian refugees they are giving their consent to Canada
sending 50 howitzers to the Ukraine. <br>
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<p> <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCC_KtRZO98&t=15s" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>The Wall
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">That is what mainstream life is about.
Ignore history and don't question. Fear Covid; hate the truckers
and love Ukraine. I don't buy any of it.</div>
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<p>I am against war and oppose Canada's arms trade. I am for a
sustainable life on our planet for all.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">The truth will set us free.</div>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 5/13/22 8:48 a.m., Bill Wright
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<div>Wow. You are really sour on mainstream life everywhere,
Art. Re Ukraine, I suggest you speak to some Ukrainians re
who is pushing for Ukrainian independence and help from the
West for military assistance. Canada has about 1.5M people
from the Ukraine. You might say Canada is Ukrainian.</div>
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<div>The Ukrainian strength is a grass roots strength. It is
all due to local Ukrainian willpower and motivation. You are
speaking for Russia, Art, when you say it is not Ukrainian
will but it is Canada and the US actions. Russia is
proving to be a butcher and thief.</div>
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<div>I think. </div>
<div>Thks.</div>
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<div>Hi John
<div dir="auto">I Hope you are well. </div>
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<div dir="auto">This NCR article appears to be the RC
version of the Daily Beast article I sent out last week.</div>
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<div dir="auto">Maybe Francis realizes as do I that
Ukraine's war is a product of US and Canada aggression.
Canada has been providing military aid and selling
armaments to the Ukraine ever since the US and Canadian
backed coup in 2014. </div>
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<div dir="auto">My guess is that NCR is just another
Imperial controled media outlet that is pushing the
dominant narative manufacturing consent for regime
change in Russia.</div>
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<div dir="auto">It gives me hope that the Pope can see
through the fog of war propaganda.</div>
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<div dir="auto">The truth will set us free.</div>
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<div>On May 11, 2022 2:30 p.m., John Huot <<a href="mailto:jdhuot@gmail.com" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">jdhuot@gmail.com</a>>
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Francis must make Vatican's stand on Ukraine clear
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<div dir="auto">This strikes me as an important, but
sympathetic, , critique of Pope Francis’ public
statements & symbolic gestures about the war
in Ukraine. The main point of the article is that
Francis’ statements have been open to manipulation
by Russia & the Russian Orthodox church,
thereby creating confusion in Ukraine &
elsewhere about Francis’ intent to condemn the
Russian war of aggression, while advocating for an
end to the war through negotiation &
humanitarian actions by Russia to end civilian
deaths, allow civilians to safely exit, cease
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