<html><head></head><body><div class="ydp8f06afd0yahoo-style-wrap" style="font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;"><div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">David, </div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">I heard the speech from Mary McAleese, and I was <b style="color: rgb(253, 239, 43); background-color: rgb(205, 35, 44);">IMPRESSED</b><span style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"> by her, </span></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><span style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">a)    Faith in <b>OUR</b> Catholic Church</span></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><span style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">b)    </span><b><font color="#cd232c" style="background-color: rgb(253, 248, 105);">L</font></b><b><font color="#cd232c" style="background-color: rgb(253, 248, 105);">ogic</font></b><span style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"> in speaking about the <b>role of women</b> in </span><b style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">OUR</b><span style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"> Catholic Church</span></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><span style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">c)    Love in <b>OUR</b> Catholic Church.</span></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><span style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><br></span></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><span style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">She is a STRONG VOICE for women in OUR Catholic Church.  She </span><b><font color="#fdef2b" style="background-color: rgb(203, 0, 142);">WILL</font></b><span style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"> be listened to by the Bishops of OUR Catholic Church, or I, Mary Lou Jorgensen-Bacher will </span><b><font style="background-color: rgb(253, 239, 43);" color="#cb008e">CONSIDER</font></b><span style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"> discontinuing my attendance at the CIC Mass on Sundays.  I do know that we have priests, who would greatly cherish to have women as priests.  I KNOW THIS.</span></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><span style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><br></span></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><span style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">I know that you have been at it "SOMETIMES", not always - you have had different </span><b style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">ways and means</b><span style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"> to allow you not to come to the service.  This has been my whole life, in the </span><b style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">spiritual</b><span style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"> sense, (which is to me, the most </span><b><font color="#fdef2b" style="background-color: rgb(205, 35, 44);">VIABLE</font></b><span style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"> way of being a CHRISTIAN - what I would </span><b style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">appreciate</b><span style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"> being inside of who </span><b><font color="#fdef2b" style="background-color: rgb(205, 35, 44);">I AM</font></b><span style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">).</span>  </div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">David, you are a <b>strong</b> man, one that I look up to in my dealings with the CATHOLIC Church - I will not become an ATHEIST, in that I will no longer believe in GOD - it is so ingrained in me (having had a brain haemorrhage on a Gr. 13 Retreat, ETC. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) that that would be <b>impossible</b>!!!!!!!  I have gone with you to the various churches that you have come to.  I will not become an atheist, or a "non-believer" - but Mary McAleese speaks well, and truly.  How do you come to the services that you do come to?  PLEASE ANSWER this question.  I know that Fr. Jack Costello, and Fr. Prakesh Lohale, Fr. Paul McAuley, (Fr. Bob Holmes) etc. would like for women to have a larger role in OUR Catholic Church.</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Mary Lou Jorgensen-Bacher</div><div class="ydp8f06afd0signature" dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br>Keeper of the Flame</div></div>
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                    On Thursday, December 8, 2022 at 04:53:52 p.m. EST, David Walsh via Sundaycommunity <sundaycommunity@lists.integralshift.ca> wrote:
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 out the ordination of women to the priesthood. The former Irish head of state wrote to the Pope, attacking his “ludicrous lack of logic or clarity”.</span><br clear="all">
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<p class="ydpf64688bayiv2276287452MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Sans;color:#006600;">Thomas J. Walsh<br>
Email:</span><span style="font-family:Sans;color:#000099;"> <a href="mailto:thomas.tomas@gmail.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">
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<p class="ydpf64688bayiv2276287452MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US"> David Walsh
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<b>Sent:</b> December 8, 2022 4:50 PM<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: Pope Francis accused of talking “misogynistic drivel” by Professor Mary McAleese - the TABLET</span></p> 
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<p class="ydpf64688bayiv2276287452MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:serif;">GOOD FOR HER!  I expect she is getting tired of not being listened to.  </span></p> 
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<p class="ydpf64688bayiv2276287452MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:serif;">Here are links to previous talks by Mary McAleese
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<p class="ydpf64688bayiv2276287452MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#3F7599;"><a href="http://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001W7LoZwm3G99Y7guc48c1XM_CKoQartHwPCDVghQhwug0AXCTtJQs5AZOgnGf9mKAwhP6l6wx8Yvk6931GqVMtOBsyYlpx8-5BFWKqWmcoeGg5sRiZc-5ds-0uTq80SxST5Xje32C14LnOo_jW7lIq4dDAz7DUOME6SKlyaKvVRT51CY8IEApZMO8qxW8-qTag3r3vGeMWhEuIdGX4Di_Iu90vOfVLh0NXg2GTpayyKFVTX2WW0QvDxjJMKpIx30HVXjnMiPRSliIC4zcLJwBIWDrC5d1SDZHtuILU_FX96WXU11S3rD0Mn5TVU5KDJxj&c=5b0zAlqk88-ZO6-zXHQkj-FAYTZtvASPS-xDdGBvlnjOlf-G_nhzPQ==&ch=lfe7phjwCGIcJIsJQek7pT1s9dPytI98bOdgz8MAotFbUsx5VTBlAA==" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"><span style="font-family:sans-serif;color:#3F7599;font-weight:normal;">Former
 president of Ireland tells pope to develop 'credible strategy' for women's inclusion</span></a></span></b></p> 
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<h1 style="margin-top:0cm;background:white;"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#1D1D1B;"><a href="https://www.thetablet.co.uk/news/13397/people-leaving-church-in-droves-warns-mcaleese?utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=26%20September%202020&utm_content=26%20September%202020+CID_b4928d6d9a05e22b34ba998b3dddd14f&utm_source=SxTabNews_v1&utm_term=Ruth%20Gledhill" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">People
 leaving Church in 'droves' warns McAleese</a><b></b></span></h1> 
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<p style="line-height:13.5pt;background:white;" class="ydpf64688bayiv2276287452MsoNormal"><span class="ydpf64688bayiv2276287452st"><span style="font-family:sans-serif;color:#545454;">Watch the thought provoking opening speech of the </span></span><em><b><span style="font-family:sans-serif;color:#6A6A6A;font-style:normal;">Voices
 of Faith</span></b></em><span class="ydpf64688bayiv2276287452st"><span style="font-family:sans-serif;color:#545454;"> International Women's Day 2018 event by former president of Ireland </span></span><em><b><span style="font-family:sans-serif;color:#6A6A6A;font-style:normal;">Mary
 McAleese</span></b></em><span class="ydpf64688bayiv2276287452st"><span style="font-family:sans-serif;color:#545454;"> as...</span></span></p> 
<p style="line-height:13.5pt;background:white;" class="ydpf64688bayiv2276287452MsoNormal"><span class="ydpf64688bayiv2276287452st"><span style="font-family:sans-serif;color:#545454;">Watch Dr </span></span><em><b><span style="font-family:sans-serif;color:#6A6A6A;font-style:normal;">Mary McAleese</span></b></em><span class="ydpf64688bayiv2276287452st"><span style="font-family:sans-serif;color:#545454;">,
 former president of Ireland deliver her opening address on International Women's day 2018. All videos can be viewed in German, ...</span></span></p> 
<h3 style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;background:white;"><span style="font-family:sans-serif;color:#222222;font-weight:normal;"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/voicesoffaithwomen/videos/dr-mary-mcaleese-the-time-is-now-for-change-in-the-catholic-church/1832022023499117/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"><span style="color:#660099;">Voices
 of Faith - Dr Mary McAleese "The time is NOW for change in the ...</span></a>  </span>
<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#222222;font-weight:normal;">“We are here to bring down our church’s walls of
</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#202124;background:white;font-weight:normal;">misogyny”</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#222222;font-weight:normal;"></span></h3> 
<p style="line-height:12.0pt;background:white;" class="ydpf64688bayiv2276287452MsoNormal"><cite><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#006621;font-style:normal;"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/voicesoffaithwomen/...mary-mcaleese.../1832022023499117" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.facebook.com/voicesoffaithwomen/...mary-mcaleese.../1832022023499117</a>...</span></cite><span style="font-family:sans-serif;color:gray;"></span></p> 
<p style="line-height:13.5pt;background:white;" class="ydpf64688bayiv2276287452MsoNormal"><span class="ydpf64688bayiv2276287452st"><span style="font-family:sans-serif;color:#545454;">Watch the thought provoking opening speech of the </span></span><em><b><span style="font-family:sans-serif;color:#6A6A6A;font-style:normal;">Voices
 of Faith</span></b></em><span class="ydpf64688bayiv2276287452st"><span style="font-family:sans-serif;color:#545454;"> International Women's Day 2018 event by former president of Ireland </span></span><em><b><span style="font-family:sans-serif;color:#6A6A6A;font-style:normal;">Mary
 McAleese</span></b></em><span class="ydpf64688bayiv2276287452st"><span style="font-family:sans-serif;color:#545454;"> as...</span></span><span style="font-family:sans-serif;color:#545454;"></span></p> 
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<h3 style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;background:white;"><span class="ydpf64688bayiv2276287452sfzihb"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#1A0DAB;">[PDF]</span></span><a href="http://www.womensordination.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/McAleese-Voices-of-Faith-Text-1.pdf" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"><span style="font-family:sans-serif;color:#660099;font-weight:normal;">The
 time is now for change in the Catholic Church Mary McAleese ...</span></a><span style="font-family:sans-serif;color:#222222;font-weight:normal;"></span></h3> 
<p style="line-height:12.0pt;background:white;" class="ydpf64688bayiv2276287452MsoNormal"><a href="http://www.womensordination.org/wp-content/.../03/McAleese-Voices-of-Faith-Text-1.pdf" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:sans-serif;">www.womensordination.org/wp-content/.../03/McAleese-Voices-of-Faith-Text-1.pdf</span></a><span style="font-family:sans-serif;color:gray;"></span></p> 
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<p style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;" class="ydpf64688bayiv2276287452MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:serif;">David
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