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<p>John </p>
<p>Trans-humanism is a very important issue of our day. The question
is how far do we go with Trans-humanism. Do we evolve beyond our
binary nature. All mammals on the planet have either xy or yy
chromosomes. Do we want to use technology to change that. Do we
want test tube babies as in Brave New World.<br>
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<p>I agree mostly with your statement. However there is quite a
difference between between the valuing of women and promoting
puberty blockers and mutilation of under age children. Gender
transition is a big money maker for big pharma. There is no
turning back. once you transition you are dependent on chemicals
from big pharma for the rest of your life. </p>
<p>Shouldn't we be teaching our children to love the unique body
they were born with? Our evolution is not to transcend our nature
but to cooperate and improve that nature. <br>
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<p>Art<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 11/01/24 8:42 p.m., John MacMillan
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<div class="gmail_default" style=""><font size="4">I'm with
Catherine on this. Evolution is still continuing, and we
with it. </font></div>
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<div class="gmail_default" style=""><font size="4">The diversity
of humankind has much to be celebrated. We do much better
when we become less judgemental and better at appreciating
unique gifts. </font></div>
<div class="gmail_default" style=""><font size="4">In our day we
are on a slow journey to value women in ways that were
denied in times past. We've always had people who didn't
relate to gender roles and found gender identity an issue
for them. They have more mental health issues,since we are
such social animals and they don't conform - indeed they are
at significantly greater risk of suicide.</font></div>
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<div class="gmail_default" style=""><font size="4">Jesus, who
consistently favored the poor and the outcast, is our great
example. We need to start from every individual bearing the
stamp of God, and with that firmly in place we hopefully
will be in a better place.</font></div>
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<p>Catherine</p>
<p><img src="cid:part1.09XEt0X1.OiHMWo8j@integralshift.ca"
alt="" width="430" height="554" align="right" class="">I
have to agree with Bill on this one. Throughout my
studies in sociology the big question always was can there
be social science or was it in the end ideology. Taking
this discussion further I began to question whether
medicine was based more on technocratic ideology than
science. </p>
<p>The concept of Gender fluidity is a prime example of an
ideology promoting a transhumanist perspective. It is the
role of the wisdom of the Church to protect our families
and children from the consequences of this exploitative
ideology. <br>
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<p>Art<br>
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<div>On 10/29/24 1:59 p.m., Catherine Walther via
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<div dir="auto">Well Bill, I read the article and I
appreciate that you responded positively to it. And I
believe it’s the way the official church would image
itself. </div>
<div dir="auto">However, in thinking about it Vatican 11
stresses that WE are Church. And we live in the 21st
century, where science now shows that we are all on a
gender fluid spectrum, where social science , (Vatican
11 included ) believes that people need to participate,
and rule-making and leadership should be not so
hierarchical , where women and men are intellectually,
socially, emotionally, and creatively equal and again
mostly on a spectrum. Science also teaches us that we
humans are part of the Earth community and not separate
from it. </div>
<div dir="auto">All of these and probably many other
understandings today that don’t come readily to mind,
show where the old ocean liner is fast leaking and
better start filling in the holes before it sinks
completely. </div>
<div dir="auto">The Holy Spirit, or Great Spirit, or
whatever name we use for God is fast working, inspiring
and creating small Christian communities that are
egalitarian, non-clerical, where sharing together how
God is working in their lives, where meditation, bible
studies and spirituality book studies enliven the
members’ faith and help them to “Act justly, love
mercy, and walk humbly with their God. “ and, as the
essence of Jesus teaching says,” Love God and love our
neighbour as ourselves.” There’s not much about big
institutions, traditions or ocean liners in those
teachings. </div>
<div dir="auto">Love the dialogue, Catherine</div>
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there will be no losers. A'Ida Shibli</span></font></p>
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like this article on why the Catholic Church moves
so slowly, like a large ocean liner (not the
Titanic!) coursing through rough seas.<br>
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Bill<br>
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