[Sundaycommunity] shut down NATO--Rage Against The War Machine rally in D.C. then Europe and Russia Abandoning Last Remaining Nuclear Arms Treaty?!

[Dwyer Sullivan]

Thank you Greg for your thorough and thoughtful response. The western media has sided with the approach NATO promotes and so a differing version gives us all a chance to realize we may not be getting the total picture.
peace, Dwyer 

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> On Feb 25, 2023, at 8:17 PM, Greg Gillis via Sundaycommunity <sundaycommunity at lists.integralshift.ca> wrote:
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> Thank you Art, for sending this out Ray MacGovern, former CIA analyst was interviewed by Robert Scheer and he agrees with you that we have never been closer to nuclear war and World War III. The West as Henry Kissinger, Professor John Measheimer, former US Ambassador to Moscow Jack Matlock have all warned of the grave danger we are in because of NATO's expansion eastward from 12 western nations in the 1990s to now 30 nations former east bloc countries. Regrettably, the west chose hostility and aggression toward Russia after the fall of the Soviet Union instead of cooperation and friendship which was the vision of Gorbachev, Yeltsin, and Reagan. This aggression caused Yeltsin to appoint Putin as his successor and anyone who has read the history knows the complexity and truth of this situation. 
> 
> None of the current batch of western leaders seems to recall the Cuban Missile Crisis! The fact that Kennedy and Kruschev who both fought in WWII knew the reality of war recognized the importance of talking, diplomacy, and honest negotiation thus averting the crisis. Though both had to be nudged into talking to one another by Pope John XXII. Something none of the western leaders have done with Putin. Merkel and Hollande of France admitted lying to Putin and using Minsk I and II as cover for building up their forces in Ukraine. They were preparing for this war for the last 10 years and refused to bargain in good faith to avert this disaster. Thank you for breaking the bubble of western propaganda!
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> The destruction of Nord Stream I and II by the US as cited by Seymour Hersh was an act of war against Germany, a NATO member. This was not just a war crime but an environmental crime as it was the largest man-made release of methane in history, the worst greenhouse gas. No accident the mainstream media which acts as a megaphone for the war machine will not give this more coverage. Good to see in Germany today 10,000 people rallied against more weapons for Ukraine and NATO's escalation. Hopefully, both sides will opt for diplomacy before it is too late.
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> Peace to All
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> 
> Greg
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>> On Sat, Feb 25, 2023 at 9:17 PM Bill Wright via Sundaycommunity <sundaycommunity at lists.integralshift.ca> wrote:
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>> Maybe you didn't see this, Art:
>> 
>> Trudeau shuts down heckler during rally for Ukraine on anniversary of the war
>> - Prime Minister Justin Trudeau was met with thunderous applause as he shot back at a heckler during a rally and vigil marking the one-year anniversary of Russia’s invasion of Ukraine.
>> - https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/article-trudeau-heckler-ukraine-rally/
>> 
>> And by attacking our allies standing with Ukraine, you sound like a Russian sympathizer, Art.  You have forgotten that Russia attacked Ukraine by sending 200,000 troops into Ukraine and killing thousands of innocent civilians.  And continues to kill thousands of Ukrainians.  Ukraine is defending itself and has every right to ask for help from anyone.  
>> 
>> Maybe you would prefer to see Ukraine destroyed, cease to exist as a country, all its leaders killed, and then you would also prefer to see the Baltic countries cease to exist too?  All of these countries are making their own decisions and I am happy to support them in their decisions.   And I am glad to have like-minded countries also supporting them.
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>> I think you are incorrect, Art, to be attacking NATO.
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>> Bill.
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>>> On Sat, Feb 25, 2023 at 12:54 PM Arthur Blomme via Sundaycommunity <sundaycommunity at lists.integralshift.ca> wrote:
>>> "NATO is going to get us all killed" - protests aim to shut down NATO for good | Redacted News
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>>> 
>>> Should NATO be banned? The organization runs under the guise that it is a defensive organization but anyone with a brain knows it’s anything but defensive. Nick Brana is one of the organizers of the Rage Against The War Machine rally in D.C. and he’s got a new mission: to bring an end to NATO.
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vgc35e1esk
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>>> 
>>> Aron Mate nails it on history of nuclear arms treaty abandonment.  Following Joe Biden’s visit to Ukraine with his attendant hawklike rhetoric, Russian President Vladimir Putin has responded by announcing that his country will suspend participation in the New START Treaty that limits warhead production and allows for the US and Russia to inspect each other’s nuclear sites. While inspections were already on hiatus from COVID, this move merely exacerbates existing tensions and brings us ever closer to World War III.
>>> 
>>> Russia Abandoning Last Remaining Nuclear Arms Treaty?!
>>> 
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swclKGomy-M
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